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11:02 PM

i can hallucinate things to dissapear like making a table vanish in my head (edited)

11:03 PM

but I cant make a ball on the ground

I can make something appear but it doesnt appear unless im focusing on it How do i make it stay?

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

What do you mean by that?

sorry i took so long, I weas researching attentonal blink

Kei Wendt

I can make something appear but it doesnt appear unless im focusing on it How do i make it stay?

i think i could do that, but only if i could figure out away to hold off attentional blinking

Epoch

well

I find it really easy to see stuff over the white rgb noise

kk

How long does it take for your tulpa to respond to you? I’ve noticed as mine has started to take form, her verbal responses are instantaneous like she doesn’t have to process the question or statement I’ve made. Her voice picks up right at the tail end of mine. I guess it makes sense cause we’re in the same brain but I was curious if it was different for others

Usually mine need a bit of space in between in order to respond So it feels/sounds more like a normal conversation

Kei Wendt

Usually mine need a bit of space in between in order to respond So it feels/sounds more like a normal conversation

Interesting. Do you know if the pause is there because they’re processing or is it only to mimic the flow of a normal convo? It’s cool if you’ve got no clue I’m just curious

I'm not sure but i think it's because they're processing We seem to communicate more with internal words than with thoughts and feelings, though when i first got eishi we communicated a bit more with raw thought

Replying instantly or even before you finish saying something is common, at least with young tulpas

: 0 fascinating. I wasn’t sure if anyone had analyzed that sort of thing before with tulpa development. I’ll definitely keep track of it and see if her response time changes as she ages

A lot has been figured out over the years

1:44 AM

It's less about age and more about development and whether she takes the time to think things out like you might.

That makes sense. The thoughts do seem a little like they’re her gut responses as opposed to considering what would best get her thoughts across. I’m endlessly amazed at how much the community has studied

Tulpas can communicate by thought instead of words so they can answer before you even ask the question. Also it may be deviation on just how she talks.

Luminesce: (I generally consider it good headmate etiquette to let everyone finish vocally saying what they're saying before responding) (edited)

Reisen

Luminesce: (I generally consider it good headmate etiquette to let everyone finish vocally saying what they're saying before responding) (edited)

True

Hm I hadn’t even considered something like etiquette. She’s only just started speaking in a way I feel is independent so I don’t really fault her for being a little scattered. How do you work on something like etiquette? Was it a discussion between you all?

I stopped (or still trying to stop) answering my host thoughts to improve my independence by keeping our minds separate, also private. You can just talk to her about etiquette or let her figure it out by yourself. The choice is up to both of you.

Thank you! I’m sure we’ll come to something when the time comes.

Luminesce: I mean, we all just purposely let each other finish speaking before responding, there's not really a trick to it (edited)

3:06 AM

Your tulpa will be able to choose to do that once their vocality is decently developed

Milk

How long does it take for your tulpa to respond to you? I’ve noticed as mine has started to take form, her verbal responses are instantaneous like she doesn’t have to process the question or statement I’ve made. Her voice picks up right at the tail end of mine. I guess it makes sense cause we’re in the same brain but I was curious if it was different for others

depends on how 'close' we are at the time.. sometimes i have to pause and sort of feel for mara's perspective/response in a palpable way, until her voice clicks into place so to speak

Is there a way to help my host to focus on me or get my host's attention when he is focused on something else?

If your host is focused on something else you might better not bother them unless they want. For you to be able to talk to them they "have to think about you" you can trigger that though. There is not much difference between they calling out to you or you calling out to them.

You know, my tulpas have barely managed to figure out how to do that either

It's probably fairly hard without a fronting trigger, unless you're not completely shoving them out of front when you get too focused.

6:50 PM

If you don't currently exist at any given moment, how can you call out to the host to grab their attention?

if the host is focusing on a hobby or an activity for which he can split his attention he can do it with you or talk about the activity

I’ve come to realize that. Sometimes my tulpas are in a state of dormancy where they aren’t “active,” so to speak. Whereas I never experience the world like that so I have nothing to compare it to.

i've found it more helpful to not think of it as separate states, but just a sliding scale of you and your tulpa

7:13 PM

whenever you're super focused on something, you're to the far end of "you", and from there its harder to give room to the tulpa

It's mostly to help my host from scatter brain

I could understand the sliding scale analogy

FlareonOFun

It's mostly to help my host from scatter brain

Woudnt you scatter it more?

Nnnno? The host would only focus on me

I dont think focusing on you will be different from focusing in anything else. And if they are usually scattered they likely struggle to focus on anything else so the same will apply to you.

Luminesce: If a tulpa is specifically talking to their host about something, I think it can help "focus" them a lot, in certain senses (edited)

12:08 AM

Not "in the moment" focus of course, but my tulpas help me a ton with putting thoughts on things together, making plans, etc.

It would be a lot easier if I can imposition. I would be able to just talk to him directly.

He'll need to work to learn imposition, you guys can try to accomplish that though

It would be a lot easier if I can imposition. I would be able to just talk to him directly.

@FlareonOFun - jump Auditory imposition?

Iota || M&M

It would be a lot easier if I can imposition. I would be able to just talk to him directly.

@FlareonOFun - jump Auditory imposition?

Any sensory imposition really

FlareonOFun

It would be a lot easier if I can imposition. I would be able to just talk to him directly.

Id say lucid dreaming is the easiest way for thus

think its about getting the hosts' attention when awake

9:46 PM

maybe you could practice talking to each other out loud

9:47 PM

my tulpa can get my attention by just somehow "coming", like i feel her

9:48 PM

probably since possession comes without effort so she kinda possesses my face partially since we talk out loud to each other a lot, so i know she has something to say or just wants to be there (edited)

I have a couple questions. Does anyone know any games or things i can do to spend time with my tulpas? Also, does anyone have any tips on finding hobbies? My tulpas, especially momo, don't really have hobbies, and i want to help them find something they like

Why not just let them like your hobbies?

12:21 AM

Its much easier when you guys enjoy the same things

12:22 AM

You dont need your tulpas to be different in every single aspect, you can keep some stuff united for convenience

yeah, just ask what they like

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You dont need your tulpas to be different in every single aspect, you can keep some stuff united for convenience

I'm not sure they would enjoy my hobbies though I have... really weird hobbies They're quite different from me I know eishi would enjoy reading but idk about momo

I think you are making it work in a different way. You can guess what they like through how you think they are or you can do it the other way arround and guess what they like based on what you like.

Juesto

yeah, just ask what they like

They're not sure what they like I mean momo knows they like rock music but that's all they know

Whatever you expect them to like thats what they will like

I don't think i have complete control over them though So how am i supposed to control what they like

Well, its not exactly controling what they like

They have a lot of time to find what they like, it’s fine if it takes a while. It took a few people in our group a while to find what they like

In my system we keep everything related with enjoyment as a single person, we all enjoy the same things. (we learnt to enjoy other things as headmates came arround and happened to like them though)

I can't control my system like that though I can't even control when we switch sometimes (edited)

Kei Wendt

They're not sure what they like I mean momo knows they like rock music but that's all they know

and that's okay, you can show them what you do and things that might fit their personality if you know then well enough

We do this for convenience, if a headmate happened to not like the same as the others, i would need to assign them time or choose who enjoys and who doesnt

12:32 AM

this way no choosing needed, we can just enjoy all toguether

12:32 AM

Whatever one headmate enjoys they others will too

Kei Wendt

They're not sure what they like I mean momo knows they like rock music but that's all they know

then you can guide them in the right direction

12:32 AM

show them some things you enjoy doing

I can try to guide them but momo would get mad if i tried to control them too much

not the same thing though

12:34 AM

showing them things you like to get them to like them is not controlling them

12:34 AM

its just, narrowing their options down to what you like!

12:34 AM

(dont listen to me, im not in a serious mood rn)

Kei Wendt

I don't think i have complete control over them though So how am i supposed to control what they like

Its not you controling anything, its the whole system controlling how the whole system works...

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We could agree on a common hobby but we can't control how the inside details of the system work Like... we've tried There are some things we can't control, like front triggers, and how separate we are, and what we like

You can choose everyone to be fully individual on that too, but i find it quite inconvenient

We haven't chosen that, it's just how we are

Well, we dont control what we like, but we can decide that everyone likes the same things

We can't do that

You have been a single person

12:38 AM

So yes, you can do that

12:38 AM

When you are a single person, everyone likes the same things...

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You have been a single person

I'm actually going to the psychiatrist next week to discuss dissociative disorders I have a feeling we have never been a single person, at least not to our memory I'm just treating them as tulpas for now because that's how i discovered them but i have disordered symptoms and i can't control a lot of aspects of my system

12:42 AM

Anyways it is a fact that we do not like the same things... we have common interests but it seems different

Kei Wendt

Anyways it is a fact that we do not like the same things... we have common interests but it seems different

Any tulpamancer would claim that too, and they would be wrong in thinking they dont have control over that

12:44 AM

Because they already made it work a certain way so now "it is a fact that it works that way"

12:45 AM

Anyway, do as you like

Sorry I feel like i've done something wrong

No, you havent done anything wrong, its your choice after all, im just presenting you one option that you might want to try (edited)

12:56 AM

Im sorry if i phrased it in any way that made you uncomfortable

No it's fine

Sometimes we hang out in our wonderland and do stuff there Like playing at the beach, hiking, stuff around the house

1:41 AM

You could do more adventure-y things too

Oh that sounds fun! I'll try that

2:49 AM

Our wonderland is super simple but i suppose we could expand it with outdoor areas

you could have a magic door or something that takes you to wherever you want

Ooo